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posted by: djmonkey (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (12:19 am) I wouldn't necessarily call this person narrow-minded if they are OPEN-MINDED enough to pray for people and accept the fact that people have different opinions. This person seems to stand up for what they believe in, and as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, I don't see the wrong in what they said. --Not meant to offend you in anyway though.... posted by: VodkaB (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (12:30 am) *laugh* Atleast they're praying, no? This world is just a little insane and contradicting one person at a time. :) *hugs* A Very Happy Valentines Day To Andaloo and Andaloo! posted by: Verlaine (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (1:32 am) What an idiot! posted by: badaunt (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (2:02 am) Leviticus is wonderful. "OK, YOU THERE, WITH THE FLAT NOSE - YOU'RE DOOMED. SORRY. AND YOU. YES, YOU! YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING SUPERFLUOUS. OUT!" "Whosoever he be of thy seed throughout their generations that hath a blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. 18: For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or anything superfluous" (http://tinyurl.com/5z3fk) "Oh, damn you, Dad!" "STONE HIM!" "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him." (http://tinyurl.com/5sfol) You can have a lot of fun with this. On the other hand, Leviticus is interesting for other reasons. An anthropologist friend tells me that the whole 'eye for an eye' thing, and the other laws of Leviticus, were a huge advance on what went before. Previously, it was not unusual for punishment to be way out of proportion to the 'crime', and these laws were an attempt to create a society where there was less violence and brutality. And a lot of the food laws reveal a primitive understanding of hygiene, and thus were an attempt to prevent disease. So historically they're interesting, and tolerant for the times (everything is relative!). But to take them as a guide to modern life... well... I wonder if your little friend is also killing cattle for you as 'sin offerings' and sprinkling the blood thereof upon the altar round about? BWAH! posted by: jennirae269 (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (4:30 am) I read that myself, if it's the one I'm thinking of, and as usual could do nothing but shake my head. I chose not comment, because I avoid the "jesus freaks" and their threats of hell and damnation. I'm pretty sure somewhere in the bible it says something about judging others, and that's supposed to be god's job, not there's. So when we all show up at the gate, we'll see who he lets in and who he doesn't. So there. posted by: lindy (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (6:24 am) Would be clearer to read the blog and your comment, but perhaps that is more then ought to be shared here. I think many 'Christians' struggle with the concept of upholding their beliefs as they've interpreted from the bible (and it's all personal interpretation) - some of these beliefs serve at cross purposes. The very idea of embracing fellow humans being without judgement seems to uproot that whole 'homosexuals are bad' theory, but then, what do I know... I just live here. It sounds like this person is trying to make it fit. I find myself with one question on my mind when I come across people like this... 'Who made God?' :) posted by: almsthvn (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (7:28 am) In my opinion, Leviticus should be pulled from the Bible. But enough of that! Happy Day to you and the one you love! posted by: ditzybrunette (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (11:53 am) I'm glad that you got my comment... i don't want you too be mad.. but i don't think that i am narrow minded it's just what i believe in..just like you have a strong belief in what you believe in ..but i am praying for you and i am not going to reject my faith ditzy posted by: SusanofPudlin (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (12:19 pm) Never try to teach a pig to sing. It is a waste of time and it annoys the pig. posted by: SusanofPudlin (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (12:21 pm) and ANOTHER thing.... how come this kind of person has no compunction against eating pork and shellfish, get to pick and choose how to apply the bible, eh???? posted by: fotocali (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (1:37 pm) Oy! An atheist myself, devotion to the bible (and its well documented it-even-bores-me-to-mention-it reinterpetation each era) makes me laugh mockingly and shake my head in pity. I try to keep this to myself, and tell myself, 'Self, this person MEANS well, and is just trying to get thru this difficult life with some kind of guidance.' But it's really difficult, sometimes, to be graceful toward them. For myself, I wish the two Andaloos a fantabulous VD (uhm, Valentine's Day), and look fwd to the day when the state of Cali gets its shit back together and recognizes the marriages in my hometown of San Francisco; when that day arrives, you (plural) are invited to SF where I'll actually try to catch the bouquet! Uhm, or you could just go to Canada. or the Netherlands. or Denmark. Or... posted by: lynne (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (3:30 pm) OH man. I hate it when people quote Leviticus to justify their hatred of homosexuals. I usually send such people to http://godhatesshrimp.com/ posted by: lynne (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (3:36 pm) Someone sent me this recently... I know that many of you have heard Pat Robertson, Jerry Fallwell and others speak of the "Homosexual Agenda", but no one has never seen a copy of it. Well, I 've finally obtained a copy directly from the Head Homosexual. It follow below: 6:00 am Gym 8:00 am Breakfast (oatmeal and egg whites) 9:00 am Hair appointment 10:00 am Shopping 12:00 pm Brunch 2:00 PM 1) Assume complete control of the US Federal, State and Local Governments as well as all other national governments, 2)Recruit all straight youngsters to our debauched lifestyle, 3) Destroy all healthy heterosexual marriages, 4) Replace all school counselors in grades K-12 with agents of Colombian andJamaican drug cartels, 5) Establish planetary chain of "homo breeding gulags" where over-medicated imprisoned straight women are turned into artificially impregnated baby factories to produce prepubescent love slaves for our devotedly pederasti gay leadership, 6) Bulldoze all houses of workship, and 7) Secure total control of the INTERNET and all mass media for the exclusive use of child pornographers. 2:30 PM Get forty winks of beauty rest to prevent facial wrinkles from stress of world conquest 4:00 PM Cocktails 6:00PM Light Dinner (soup, salad, with Chardonnay) 8:00 PM Theater 11:00 PM Bed (du jour)? posted by: Mimi (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (5:00 pm) welp, mr.s' loops...it seems to have all been said..therefore, just let me say i wish you both the best of romantic days and take it from one that knows...to be alone and missing your loved one is not any way to live...cherish and enjoy and know that you are loved. xoxox posted by: Andaloo (reply) post date: 02.14.05 (10:46 pm) Reply to: ditzybrunette I’m not mad, but I was angry. Please don’t think I was suggesting you should reject your faith, I would never do that. If religion is considered a set of guidelines by which to live your life to the fullest, then it has to be a good thing. But what I have a problem with is when people take those guidelines and adopt them word for word, or adapt them to the detriment of others. In certain countries, other religions, those people are thought of as extremists and therefore dangerous. Shouldn’t religion be about love, and not punishment and hate? Shouldn’t understanding be more important than fear? It would seem you’re under the impression that our sexuality is a choice. Do you remember choosing to be heterosexual? I doubt you do, just like I don’t remember choosing to be gay. It’s inherent, it’s part of us. My being gay is as normal to me as your sexuality is to you. Look beyond the sex; if two people love each other and want to spend the rest of their time together, isn’t that wonderful? Please don’t pity gay people, we neither want nor deserve it, but above all it’s patronising. posted by: TorryGirl (reply) post date: 02.15.05 (12:34 am) Did you know that there are over 60,000 known errors in the translations of the bible? That means that for all we know, the bible said "Do not practise sock darning, it is a detestable sin" posted by: dangerkitty (reply) post date: 02.15.05 (8:01 am) I love you Andaloo! =D No conditions. Just as you are. posted by: Andaloo (reply) post date: 02.15.05 (8:30 am) Reply to: dangerkitty Aww Thanks DangerDarcey. posted by: lindy (reply) post date: 02.15.05 (8:33 am) fyi, 'King James' as in THAT King James... was as gay as it got. so there. *waggles thumbs in ears... posted by: mblog (reply) post date: 02.15.05 (4:10 pm) Reply to: TorryGirl There are actually no translation errors in the Bible. But that assumes that you read it in Hebrew. The problem with Leviticus 18:22 is that it's incomplete. The explanation is in the Tamud, not the Torah. But Christians never adopted the Talmud as a religious text, probably because it shows how Christianity is in conflict with what is written in the Torah. But from what is there, it does not contain a blanket statement against practicing homosexuality. It does have a statement against a man lying with a man as with a woman, and says that it's a sin. What that means, exactly, is open to interpretation, so for anybody to give an interpretation and insist that that's what the Bible literally says is just plain wrong. Abomination in the Christian sense is not consistent with Jewish interpretations of this Jewish text. Sins against God are considered either rebellions against God, or things that are ceremonially unclean. There will be religious people who will argue either way, but the interpretation that people who engage in certain types of homosexual behavior are doing it to rebel against God strikes me as having little credibility. So it's essentially saying that anal sex is considered unclean, unless you can think of another way that a man can lie with a man as with a woman. If you take it TOO literally, then it means that a man should not put his penis in another man's vagina. In that case, I know of nobody who is violating this. Whether this means that religious people should disapprove of homosexuality is open to interpretation, but they cannot claim that Leviticus states that all homosexuality is condemed there or that it states anywhere that it's an abomination. That's unquestionably an interpretation, not an actual biblical statement. And to say that this refers to lesbians at all is beyond any reasonable interpretation. A better interpretation is that it may be sinful, just as a Jew eating shellfish or driving a car on Saturday might be sinful. It's not the type of thing that anybody will rot in hell for, assuming of course that it's consensual. posted by: grateful1 (reply) post date: 02.15.05 (10:03 pm) again as i stated before..hating, what we believe from God, sin and hating a person are two different things! i believe people get those two confused and twisted!God Bless! posted by: Andaloo (reply) post date: 02.15.05 (10:15 pm) Reply to: grateful1 I don't think anybody here has talked about hate on a personal level. posted by: grateful1 (reply) post date: 02.15.05 (10:17 pm) Reply to: Andaloo i saw it..let me go find it...brb posted by: grateful1 (reply) post date: 02.15.05 (10:21 pm) Reply to: Andaloo lynne "OH man. I hate it when people quote Leviticus to justify their hatred of homosexuals" hatred of homosexuals...i may be a christian and think its a sin but i sure dont hate homosexuals...just what i believe is a sin homosexuality...difference at the end...uals, ality..see!! ok so this person is the only one here..but i saw that drforbush said something of that nature also!! and just others on their blogs that i have seen cant remember who!! posted by: Andaloo (reply) post date: 02.15.05 (11:02 pm) Reply to: grateful1 While I can understand what you're pointing out I think it's a bit of a churlish addition. I have the highest respect for Lynne and her opinions, and to suggest she is confused by, or twisting the concept is an insult. posted by: grateful1 (reply) post date: 02.15.05 (11:09 pm) Reply to: Andaloo being that it seems to be an important issue to you i really dont think its a bit churlish...and alot of people do confuse the two!!how is it churlish...i mean to accuse someone of hating you or any other homosexual is absurd, unless they really are that way and hateful of people. i think its important to distinguish and point out! but hey whatever, sorry if you don't feel that way. and i wasnt insulting lynne or being insulting towards anyone, but if we are insulting then its insulting to me to have people think that just because a christian thinks homosexuality is a sin they automatically hate the person. yes christianity is about love and i do have love for people, all people and compassion too. i dont hate people because of who or what they are. posted by: grateful1 (reply) post date: 02.15.05 (11:11 pm) Reply to: Andaloo anywho andaloo....just thought that ryhmed in my head..lol..so had to add it. but really i'm sorry if i came off as insulting lynne...it wasnt meant that way at all!! posted by: Rodney King (reply) post date: 02.16.05 (5:50 am) Can't we all just get along? :) posted by: Andaloo (reply) post date: 02.16.05 (7:15 am) Reply to: Rodney Ahhh the voice of reason. |
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