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Immigration
08.17.04 (10:19 am)   [edit]

Something which Lynne posted reminded me of my first trip to USA.


 


I was travelling alone, in my early twenties and going to New York. After disembarking I joined a queue at immigration and waited. And waited. Eventually I got to the front of the queue, handed over my passport and visa and the woman behind the desk asked “moustache?” On my passport photo I had a moustache, but had since shaved it off. “When did you shave it off?” she asked. “I don’t know, maybe a couple of years ago” I replied. She looked into my eyes and snarled “go to the back of the queue and think about it”. A policeman was standing close listening to this so I turned to him, he just shrugged and moved me out of the queue. I queued again. An hour later I was at the desk again. “So” she said, “have you thought when the moustache came off?” “Yes” I lied, I shaved it off two years ago”. She stamped my papers and told me to sit by an office, “we’d like to ask you some questions” she said, and kept my passport. I waited for three hours, constantly asking officials what was happening, nobody could tell me. Eventually the woman who had held back my passport got up from her desk and was replaced by somebody else, it appeared her shift was finished. She came over to me, took my passport from her pocket and told me I could now go. I stopped a policeman and asked him where I go to complain about the way I’d been treated. His advice was “if I were you I’d get out of here while you still can.” As I turned to walk away he shouted “oh, and welcome to America, the greatest country in the world!”

 


posted by: TigerGrrl (reply)
post date: 08.17.04 (1:26 am)

see that is just one of the sorts of reasons I don't like this country.



posted by: newbie (reply)
post date: 08.17.04 (1:51 am)

lucky you didnt tell them you were a communist



posted by: TorryGirl (reply)
post date: 08.17.04 (2:47 am)

That's right! We all have freedom of speech!! (Just as long as no one is listening or we don't upset anyone or people might not agree with us...)



posted by: lynne (reply)
post date: 08.17.04 (9:27 am)

I am sorry, that last little bit where the cop says "Welcome to America, the greatest country in the world" really has me laughing. I love sarcastic NYC cops. LOVE THEM!

But I dont love all the little peon INS workers and custom agents who like to give folks a hard time, who forget that people need to be treated with basic dignity even when they make a mistake. And it really bothers me that some woman at INS would simply fail to get it that harassing someone about a moustache is absurd to the point of being a comedy sketch. Seriously, If I were a writer for Saturday Night Live or something, that is the kind of thing that really could be used to great comic effect.

I am sorry that you had a bad experience Andaloo. I hope that INS is working on the customer service aspect of clearing people through customs.



posted by: irishgirl28 (reply)
post date: 08.17.04 (9:45 pm)

we americans are a truly contrary bunch...i think we make up shit just to make life difficult for others...people in her positions are usually so disappointed with life they try to make sure everyone around them is too...lol



posted by: Ladyblog (reply)
post date: 08.17.04 (10:14 pm)

Thats so wrong! I don't get it... why some people just have to be nasty or rude simply because they can be.

I hope the rest of your visit to New York was better... you didn't take any taxis did you? Eeek!

TTFN



posted by: Andaloo (reply)
post date: 08.17.04 (11:43 pm)

Reply to: lynne
I can see the absurdity of it now, but at the time I was just a kid travelling alone, and believe me it wasn't funny.



posted by: Andaloo (reply)
post date: 08.17.04 (11:58 pm)

Reply to: Ladyblog
You're not going to believe this...After leaving the airport I took a cab to my hotel and the driver offered me hash =8-/ Now call me neurotic but after the airport incident it made me REALLY nervous.
My hotel room was broken into and when the police came they said it was my own fault because I'd left the window open...I was ten floors up. Finally my bag ended up on a flight to Puerto Rico and I had another run in with the police because I refused to take the bag belonging to the Puerto Rican back to London.
Actually I had a great time, and yes I have been back since. It's just a shame about the hag on the desk at immigration!



posted by: Ladyblog (reply)
post date: 08.18.04 (3:55 am)

OMG! If that had happened to me somewhere, I probably never would have gone back.

NY, well I live here. I think I've become desenstitized to all the negative aspects (and there are many!).

Glad to here you didn't let such negative events ruin your trip or keep you from coming back! And of course you have a "great" vacation story to tell people!
TTFN




posted by: Boggins (reply)
post date: 08.18.04 (5:43 am)

You get those jumped-up little toads in many public offices, regardless of country. It is definitely not just a USA thing; it's that power/boredom equation.



posted by: SusanofPudlin (reply)
post date: 08.18.04 (7:24 am)

Are INS agents secretly frustrated FBI candidates who were rejected? Perhaps they wanted to be police officers? Or IRS agents?
I was stopped at the Canadian border once. Mostly because I "look" like a hippie some of the time. They essentially held us for an hour or so while boatloads of cars were sent whistling through. MY crime was wearing Birkenstocks and having a husband with long hair and a beard.



posted by: mblog (reply)
post date: 08.18.04 (1:13 pm)

I've found immigration officers to differ quite a bit from once country to another. In Europe, I never had a problem, except England likes to give me the third degree. They never held me up too much, but really wanted to know what I was doing in the country, who I was seeing, and where I was staying. I've had that happen there a few times.

The only place on earth where I really had problems with customs, such as getting sent to the back of the line was in Vietnam. They like to hassle people and they like bribes. But they know that westerners don't bribe them, because we are taught that it's illegal. So they just get mad instead.

I had one agent send me back without telling me why. He couldn't speak English, even though it was required, but he got his job by bribing somebody in the first place. It's a horrible place to have to go through customs and it makes you want to turn around and go back right away. I also don't like the idea of a customs inspector dangling a cigarette in my face while standing in front of a no smoking sign, but who are you going to complain to?

The easiest I've ever encountered was at Schiphol. Once I arrived there during wartime and I figured that security would be tighter. As I approached the agents, I took out my passport, and even though I was still at least 15 feet away, the person just nodded and waved me through.




posted by: Joolie (reply)
post date: 08.19.04 (2:31 pm)

Reply to MBlog - You know what, I get the same thing exactly going the other way, the US Officials really want to know where I'm going and who I'm staying with, when I went to visit Nat I just told them she was a penpal,it was easier that way! Joolie xxx



posted by: SoMe (reply)
post date: 08.20.04 (4:26 am)

The less time it takes me to see the humor in a situation, the closer I get to where I want to be. I amgine when I cut it down to mere seconds... I will have arrived. WHat a wonderful memory to tell over and over again!

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