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Red tape continued...
07.11.05 (7:15 am)   [edit]

I opened the door to see Hope, an English friend, looking more crazed than usual and whimpering “wine, I need a large glass of wine. If you were a real friend you’d find me a cigarette too”.


 


Hope hasn’t lived here for long, she wants to work but is (like many of us before her) finding it difficult. As a nurse she’d been told she has to register with the Spanish health authority before she can look for work. Fair enough.


 


After a couple of gulps of wine and half a cigarette she started to tell me what had happened. Somebody had told her she could register as a qualified nurse in an office here in the land of the smiling mule. She found the office and eventually got to talk to the scary woman behind the desk. It needs to be said that Hope doesn’t speak Spanish, but what she lacks in technical knowledge is compensated by technique and enthusiasm. From what she told me the conversation went some thing like this;


“ Hello, I nurse. I want work here. I have papers…um, list?” The scary woman behind the desk said nothing. Hope mimed injecting herself and smiled at the woman. “Nurse”. She slid her papers across the desk, which the woman looked at and slid them back clearly not understanding English. Hope went on, and on, the mimes getting bigger until somebody in the queue behind her offered (in broken English) to help. “At last! Please tell her that I’m a nurse and want to work here.” The scary woman behind the desk looked puzzled and slowly shook her head. “Tell her” said Hope, “all I want is to register in this country as a qualified nurse and can she please help me”. After a brief exchange between the two women Hope was told “no”. “WHAT! I am a European citizen, and as such…”. The woman broke in and said “she can’t help you because this is the Water Board office”.


 


I filled her wine glass again while she described the events of the rest of her day. She went to another office, queued for hours and went through the whole process again. She filled out numerous papers, signed the dotted line and left the office in search of a friendly ear. “So, are you now registered?” I asked her. “Well yes, I’m registered unemployed”.

 


posted by: badaunt (reply)
post date: 07.10.05 (11:27 pm)

Hee hee!

She should try coming HERE! I went with a friend to apply for her permanent residency permit. She had gone in the week before to get the forms so she could ask a Japanese friend to fill them all out in Japanese. He did this for her, beautifully.

We joined the very long queue and after about half an hour got to the front, only to be told that the forms were the wrong ones. "But these are the forms you gave me last week!" she said, and was told that the forms had changed since last week, and there were now new ones. They gave her the new forms.

The new forms were exactly the same as the old ones in content, but were designed a little differently. She was not allowed to use the old forms, although they had all the same information on them. No, she had to painstakingly copy all the information from the old forms to the new forms.

Try doing THAT when you're illiterate in Japanese. We were there all afternoon.

(Happy ending though - she got the visa.)



posted by: lynne (reply)
post date: 07.11.05 (6:43 am)

Language barriers frighten me, I have to admit. Like most Americans, I only speak English and while I often think it would be fun to live in a foreign country, I wonder if I could ever really do it if I dont understand the language and I wonder how quickly one can pick it up.



posted by: juniperflux (reply)
post date: 07.11.05 (7:58 am)


Ah... the international language of bureaucracy. In my experience there's always a language barrier of sorts between government employees and well... the rest of humanity... regardless of their mother tongue.

Your blog has been recommended to me by several people. I'm glad I finally made my way here.

j



posted by: Andaloo (reply)
post date: 07.11.05 (9:24 am)

Reply to: badaunt
Hello you! Long time, no speak. What's the latest?



posted by: Andaloo (reply)
post date: 07.11.05 (9:29 am)

Reply to: lynne
In my experience learning the language has been a big part of the whole experience. As for how long it takes...in my case, a VERY long time!



posted by: Andaloo (reply)
post date: 07.11.05 (9:37 am)

Reply to: juniperflux
Thanks for dropping in J. Whoever recommended you visit was being very kind.



posted by: BerlinBear (reply)
post date: 07.11.05 (11:54 pm)

He lives! Welcome back Andaloo. You've been missed around these parts.

Love that post. I can certainly identify with the bureaucracy part of it. Hope sounds like a scream. I bet she's a good laugh.



posted by: SusanofPudlin (reply)
post date: 07.12.05 (5:43 pm)

Sorry Hope Floats (sorry again) but glad to hear from you.



posted by: lindy (reply)
post date: 07.13.05 (8:22 am)

'If you were a real friend you'd...'

Cool. I'm so glad to know that phrase works on you. (insert evil grin)



posted by: Joolie (reply)
post date: 07.14.05 (9:04 am)

Hey stranger! Glad to see you back! I've missed you! Jooliexxx



posted by: mblog (reply)
post date: 07.15.05 (5:46 am)

Maybe it's a cultural difference, but the idea of a nurse who smokes strikes me as totally off the wall.



posted by: NurseNancy (reply)
post date: 07.17.05 (7:50 am)

The Nurse family is currently in the process of moving to a foreign country ( ok, so it's Canada) Thankfully, I don't have a language barrier to cross in order to obtain employment! All I have to do is pay exhorbitant fees in order to have my licence and credentials emailed there! Besides, I've already been offered a job, pending the above and the working visa stuff.
btw,tell your nurse friend that smoking is bad for you.
It will stunt your growth! that is a scientific NurseNancy fact!!



posted by: dangerkitty (reply)
post date: 07.17.05 (6:48 pm)

Reply to: NurseNancy
I'm moving to Canada too. Do you know what province?



posted by: dangerkitty (reply)
post date: 07.17.05 (6:50 pm)

Ugh! I feel your friend's pain. I have been going through some headache of sorts moving to Canada. I cannot give the details but lets just say that I have been the victim of a sequence of unfortunate events.



posted by: NurseNancy (reply)
post date: 07.18.05 (12:41 am)

Reply to: dangerkitty
We are moving to Halifax in the province called Nova Scotia. Very beautiful and clean. The people all seem to very friendly, at least the ones I've met so far!!

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